$59. See more ideas about bertrams, boat, bertram boats. need some help. Pretty fast isn't the word. After ripping out the old bed sisters, the spaces are degreased, soap and water scrubbed, dried, and wiped liberally with denatured alcohol. : what is the appropriated location for engine €49.311 (Reserviert) Verkäufer United Yacht Sales - Florida Treasure Coast 33. If the current day 4stroke outboards didn't exist there would not be a question and we would be going back with diesels. It is docked on 21st street in Avalon I think the name of the boat is Sailsman. Sailboats Northeast. Bertram 31 Flybridge Cruiser . Sorry. Contact. One is an older set and one has a brand new set of 350 Captain's Choice Crusaders. Walter. Check it out. Mattapoisett Yacht Sales. Kipp came as close as one can to winning a UVI with his outboard B31. Bertram focuses on Europe; Bertram 31, the expert’s advice for a second-hand one; Bertram 39 CC outboard. His center console conversion, lil tower, and outboards all work together to make a honestly asthetic and real good looking blue water vessel. 1968. I wouldn't do it for a variety of reasons, but for the costs of twin 300 Suzukis, a bracket, all the transom work you'd need, etc., you could a nice inboard repower and have $$ left over. Looks aside, it can be a better choice for most people. €85.000 Verkäufer Valbroker 19. Dealer; Aluminium; Twin Motor Pod as shown above pictures are for display only . I also now have a place to keep it so things are a little different, at least that is what I am telling myself! Hopefully it wont be to much power and bury the bow causing it to push pole beyond recovery. Photos und Informationen zu diesem Boot ansehen oder nach mehr Bertram Booten zum Verkauf auf boats.com suchen. by Whaler1777 » Jan 18th, '09, 19:54, Post Hallmark Yachts Inc. Bertram 31 Sportfisher. just looks wrong. by jziegler » Jan 18th, '09, 19:08, Post I think someone is screwing with us. Curiously, shirking Mercury’s high-performance outboard engines, the builder decided to power the boat with a 160-hp MerCruiser. by In Memory Walter K » Jan 17th, '09, 19:35, Post The day you do 46kts all 80 miles offshore to the canyons is the last day youre going to have a spine. by Harv » Jan 18th, '09, 23:17, Post I know. by captbone » Jul 20th, '09, 10:14, Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], DanielM, Google [Bot] and 14 guests, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited, What do you all think about putting twin 300 Suzikis 4-strokes on a 1962 31 Express. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That’s because the file is labeled August 31, 1967. Complete both indoor and outdoor refit completed in 2020 Contact Person Giorgia Goi - Click here to reveal phone number - Visit our website: www.valbroker.com Liguria, Italien. 619-246-6676 × Save This Boat. Locate Bertram boat dealers and find your boat at Boat Trader! Bertram 31 Flybridge Cruiser . Bertram 31 Flybridge Cruiser . I came across these pictures. Anyone have any pics of a 31 w/ outboards? The 31 Bertram began the deep v revolution, in many ways paving the way for offshore fishing to gain popularity. open boat ..no prob...anything else is butt ugly. We didn't win but got our first blue, and have been banging 'em up since then. Outboards make zero sense on a 31 in my opinion... On the 25 it looks and works just fine thats great, but if youre looking for an outboard boat in the 30+ foot range just start lookin at grady's dont bother tearing up a 31 you will never get the performance you want... 25k for a set of used 250's? Open the hood what are you going to look for? I just started the topic after not being able to sell my express, even though I would take $15K for it and I can't afford the 60 to 70K switch to diesels right now. by randall » Jan 18th, '09, 10:09, Post 1969. Be sure to follow along as we continue restoring this true Ray Hunt classic. by Whaler1777 » Jan 17th, '09, 19:51, Post Also depends on what you want to do your self. by Harv » Jan 17th, '09, 22:33, Post I would rather have function and usability over looks any day for a boat. May work just fine, heavy front end balanced by a "holy crap there 4 strokes back end". by Harry Babb » Jan 18th, '09, 09:01, Post Bertram 31 Flybridge Cruiser. I have one on Swap & Sell for sale but am still considering options. B31 Express with Suzuki outboards. Mint fiberglass replacement fuel tank for 28 Bertram $2,800 (Parsippany) hide this posting restore restore this posting. 1. $65,000 Seller Hallmark Yachts Inc. 18. Category Motor Yachts Length 31' Posted Over 1 Month 1972 Bertram 31 One of the most iconic boats ever produced, the Bertram 31 is know for its great handling, … He is a Suzuki dealer and will rig and install two 300 4-strokes for around $35K. Custom Built. I dont understand it, what youre talking about doing is putting 1200lbs of dead weight at the back of a 31 foot bertram, remember you throw that bracket on the boat and youre adding 3' to the boat your props are 3 feet past the transom of the boat, think weight!!!!!!!! However, not sure what addl work required for reinforcing transom and making bracket etc. Joe, No worries. favorite this post Jan 11 Bertram 30' 1984 $1 (Fort Lauderdale) pic hide this posting restore restore this posting. by kipp » Jan 20th, '09, 12:28, Post A forum community dedicated to bass anglers and enthusiasts. Jul 25, 2014 - Explore Rechelle Lewis's board "bertram 26" on Pinterest. Has it ever been done? but taking one of the most classic inboard boats of all time and converting it into a butt ugly caracature of itself makes no sense to me when there is an unending supply of factory outboards available. by John F. » Jan 18th, '09, 21:23, Post will cost. Outboards are a viable option yes but not on a stock Bertram 31!!! Twin Motor.Bolt on. Bertram 31 built in 1970 Great fisherman built by the American shipyard. by captbone » Jan 18th, '09, 12:47, Post Kip's 'Targeted Species' is the exception, not the norm. That also happened while backing down steep ramps with a 26Proline and 130hp Hondas i had. $15,000. US$97,500 * 31 ft / 1986. CC Series. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Here we go... Theres no computer in the 6bta recons its a mechanical engine, the 4 strokes are a 100lb difference with a major powerhead and overall size difference... A computerized 4 stroke engine is not an easily serviced item unless you have mega bucks and someone who just got out of a certified tech school that trained them to work on those specific engines and even then theyre a bitch (Your engine shuts down 3 cylinders? 1979. Bertram 31 clásico 1963 $3,000 (Homestead) hide this posting restore restore this posting. Are you kidding me? Not trying to mess with anyone. i wonder how she rides/runs with out the weight of the inboards? It can be done. They built it with a beefed up transom and the gas tank further forward. by John F. » Jan 18th, '09, 18:36, Post by Tony Meola » Jan 18th, '09, 20:40, Post Were talking under 40k with taxes If you are doing all the labor yourself there should be no reason for it to cost any more than 45k... What is the cost per side of the Zukes, the tab for making the transom capable of holding two 600#+ 4 strokes and the bracket to hang them on? by Buju » Jan 17th, '09, 20:29, Post Thanks. by randall » Jan 18th, '09, 13:40, Post At least targeted species is swinging E-Techs or at least 2-strokers, way lighter than 4 strokes (and yes this makes a difference) Asthetics prove that this boat will be all yours for as long as you decide not to give it away. Qs? I don't think Kip's boat would be a good example to compare with in this case as the modifications he has made far exceed what can be done on an Express Cruiser. by Brewster Minton » Jan 18th, '09, 11:30, Post Anything is possible if you throw enough money at it. That would be cool to see as well. $120,000 Seller Pop Yachts 114. Thanks everyone, I too like all the pros & cons. I say better and others here will agree. by Rawleigh » Jan 19th, '09, 09:13, Post Apr 23, 2014 - The Boating Forum - Bertram 31 outboards - Hi everybody. by John F. » Jan 17th, '09, 16:22, Post Ease of maintenance? Right next door to my business is a boat shop and I am good friends with the owner. Bertram 31 Flybridge Cruiser. Concieved and built at the Yachting Solutions Resto Mod shop in Maine, as the ultimate picnic/day boat. 31'5" (9.44m) Overall Beam: 12'5" (3.65m) Draft (@DWL): 2'9" (0.83m) Transom Deadrise: 22° Seakeeper: 5 ... No other boat in this class meets the criteria of the Bertram 35', a boat as luxurious and elegant as it is rugged and durable. If you really want an outboard boat, I'd sell the B31 and get a nice outboard boats. The Bertram 31, gas or diesels is the best boat I have ever run in a following sea. I really, really like outboards--but you'll put alot of $$ into the boat. Probably 25 -26 feet. by JK » Jan 18th, '09, 11:24, Post Outboards-new steering system? If you come across it, let me know I'd love to see it. Gloucester, Massachusetts, United States. Contact. Bertram 31 . The 20 Sportsman was one of the first forays Bertram made into center consoles. Has it been done? by jziegler » Jan 17th, '09, 19:33, Post I got my rear deck out though and am redoing alot of stuff and getting a new tank. by captbone » Jan 18th, '09, 19:37, Post Then throw in the well while I am here I might as well.... and you are up there in cost. I remember seeing a picture of an Express with twin outboards recently. I am being civil... Slippery slope??? Contact +33 (0)6 75 27 01 10 × Save This Boat. Kips boat is a big difference from an express. To me, its has nothing to do with looks, its a matter of money. Search and browse boat ads for sale on boatsandoutboards.co.uk Bertram is known for using only the highest quality materials—and our gear is no exception. I think this complication will add considerably to the price. Also when in real big seas when you cant run fast those small props wont perform like the inboards. by Carl » Jan 19th, '09, 08:13, Post by In Memory Walter K » Jan 19th, '09, 15:00, Post Powered with 2 x 140 Hp Detroit diesel, SHAFT DRIVE! by Buju » Jan 17th, '09, 15:32, Post Are you kidding?????? Did that with a 28' Chris Craft Commander and almost put it on a sod bank. B31 Express with Suzuki outboards. May work just fine, heavy front end balanced by a "holy crap there 4 strokes back end". I know of two with 350's in them. by jziegler » Jan 18th, '09, 16:29, Post Sure if youre paying someone else to do the work for you it can easily wind up costing you 60k plus..... You can get the 330's for around 16,500 per side! Locate Bertram boat dealers and find your boat at Boat Trader! Woops. 28CC; 33CC; 39CC; XC Series. Walter. again if you go the CC route and its just the hull your after...have at it. Hey Whaler.....keep it civil. Bertram - 30\' Moppie Motor Boats for Sale in Olbia-Tempio, Sardinia. by CaptPatrick » Jan 20th, '09, 12:40, Post Kipps boat works mint and looks mint Did I say anywhere that it wasn't aesthetically pleasing???????????. Then I saw a recent conversion to outboards that was really fantastic. Go easy. You can do a nice inboard gas repower and have some $$ left over for what'll cost for a pair of outboards and a bracket. There is no way an OB powered 31 will handle as well as a 31 Bert with inboards. The 20 and 25 Bahia Mar and Moppies were either stern drives or inboards. Joe. Rick can be reached at 1-732-773-3409 to answer any questions you may have on this boat. You have been down that slippery slope before. by CaptPatrick » Jan 18th, '09, 21:34, Post I think there are pics on his webite as well. i have nothing at all against outboards and like most here have owned a few. Cabo San Lucas, Mexico. by jziegler » Jan 17th, '09, 14:49, Post I am seriously considering hanging (no brackets) twin 250 OB on my 31 bertram. Our first trip out was the last Port Eads UVI. Targeted Species looks great, and taking a B31 and making it CC is the only way I'd try to do an O/B. by captbone » Jan 18th, '09, 02:23, Post Good discussion on THT about this topic. I just read an article in Florida Sportsman showing advantages of new outboards on larger boats and thought I would pose the question. My 31 is on a trailer only 3 blocks from boat ramp. Joe. Bridge Marine Sales. Hi John F - Did you ever get those Cummins 210s on ebay a few weeks back? But it takes a bit of doin'! Want the outboard simplicity. Gaia Yachting Srl. Cabo San Lucas, Mexico. United Yacht Sales is a professional yacht brokerage firm that has experience listing and selling all types of Bertram Yachts and similar boats. 25 bertram with outboards Clear all. Johns Island, South Carolina. by Harv » Jan 18th, '09, 11:45, Post This isn't a bertram. France. by JP Dalik » Jan 17th, '09, 21:49, Post One is an older set and one has a brand new set of 350 Captain's Choice Crusaders. 1 1 1 1 * This price is based on today's currency conversion rate. Hi Kipp, Do you have any pics of reinforcing the transom and installing the engine bracket on Targeted Species - your boat looks great and I espicially like the pics at boat ramp. My 2 cents. Bertram 31 Flybridge Cruiser. I'm in the area, I'll keep my eyes peeled.. Price Drop. i think an express would be the worst candidate....not from usability ...i get that. I started writing some pros and cons, but most of them have already been listed and as to looks it's your boat so it really only matters to you...except when you go to sell it. Sardinia, Italy. Or maybe if the waterpump decides that youve sucked up too much sand backing off from those many times that youve beached that 10,000lb boat and shreds the impeller its gonna be a real bitch to pull that lower unit and "pop on" a new waterpump .. Outboards more econimical or anywhere close AT ALL to diesel? Myself and many other people on this site have mentioned and know of the cost of recon cummins max at 40k plus 2k for a pair of zf gears is what were talking here... And back to capt bones story about how an outboard is any kind of an advantage to any newer diesel engine on the market today? {not as much power with a small wheel at slow speeds in a big sea doesnt work for me}, Diesels-keep your tank. Her is one that was built/converted by OMC way back in 78 right after delivery At the same time my neighbor decided to repower his 33 contender and offered me his 250 yamahas. Ets Pascal Villanova. Find Bertram Moppie boats for sale near you, including boat prices, photos, and more. 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