A bite from a large dog may result in broken, splintered, or fractured bones, especially in the legs, feet, or hands. Then in April 2017 I took him to another vet who vaccinated him again when I took him in because I didn’t have his original record from Nov and the very said it’s best to have a copy of the record just in case. No calls. If they have teeth, and normal nervous function, they can bite. Of course if you live in the city you don’t have too worry about these things. It took a long time, but it eventually removed most of the symptoms. Compendium of Animal Rabies Prevention and Control, http://www.ksvdl.org/rabies-laboratory/rffit-tests/, http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/pro/programs/publichealth/oph_standards/docs/rabies_prevention.pdf, https://www.avma.org/KB/Policies/Pages/Annual-Rabies-Vaccination-Waiver.aspx, http://www.cdc.gov/rabies/specific_groups/veterinarians/potential_exposure.html, https://my.vitalanimal.com/p/vital-animal-pack. My bite ending up being a stage 4 out of 6 puncture and tear wound that went through the middle of my palm and out through my thumb with no fracture! We in homeopathic veterinary practice see it daily. I pick her up from school. This is amazing, coming from the AVMA! My friend hasn’t even told her husband and he’s not going to be happy. You want the RFFIT Rabies Vaccine Response Titer Test – Not for Pet Travel. Whether the attack was provoked or not. You know, the ones who are supposed to be thinking outside the box, looking at the bigger picture. Thanks for providing the Canadian experience, Joanne, or at least your province’s. Taking rabies vaccination without being bitten by an animal is the same as taking vaccination when you were bitten by a non rabid animal. Rabies virus antibody titers are indicative of a response to vaccine or infection. My dog did’t bite out of aggression but out of excitement and never bitten anyone before. Treat the wound as noted above. Dog bites can introduce dangerous bacteria into the body. I think I’m going to need to Vaccinate her for Rabies, as much as I hate to do it. If the dog’s owner is nearby, ask for the dog’s vaccination history, making sure to get the owner’s name, telephone number, and veterinarian’s contact information. Thanks again! Read on to learn the steps you should take following a dog bite, and what you can do to prevent infection. s, The other problem/risk with not vaccinating is the occasional rabid animal, usually a skunk or a raccoon that could cross your path. I suppose if you accidently hurt yourself trying to hang a picture on the wall with a hammer and nail, the same type of injury could result. He’s been in Phenobarbital for the past 4 years and it’s affecting his liver. “However, AVMA recognizes some animals might require a waiver from rabies vaccination because the vaccination poses an unacceptably high risk to the health of the individual animal,…”. Dog bites can cause several complications. There is no proof that more than one vaccination is needed. So, who knows how far they would take it. Ridiculous. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH!! You know, the guys who thought raw food an unacceptable risk to the average dog? Let me tell you that if she had been “up to date” on her rabies shot the thought of suing would never cross my mind. You can take the presence of any titer to mean that it’s highly likely there’s a long term immunity that will be “awakened” suddenly upon exposure to the disease agent. If your skin wasn’t broken, wash the area with warm water and soap. This is no joke folks. Also is there a specific brand of rabies vaccine and/or dose I should ask for OR avoid ? Rabies is caused by a virus that affects the central nervous system. No - if the puppy had rabies, the puppy would be dead quickly. Also, if your puppy is 12 weeks or older when you adopt him, he must be vaccinated. My special boy (4yrs GSD) was diagnosed with idiopathic epilepsy ten months ago and has experienced twelve GM’s to date, the last 48 hours ago. If you go to the home page, I believe you will find a link to homeopathic vets located in your area. After my dad died his Brittany Spaniel, “Nick” underwent a personality change. I’m so scared. Thanks! 1. Thanks so much Dr. Falconer! My concern is if we have to travel back to uk or go to the vet for anything we could get fined or forced into it or worse. Distemper periodically shows itself, though it’s getting more rare. After reading this I am motivated to find a vet that will titre him and my other adopted dog Jack. print out the form for rabies titer. Was I a complete fool for following those voices that said she’d be immune for life from her early rabies shot? Without it, your dog could be quarantined or taken by animal control—and you can be cited. Trust companies with LABORATORIES who test their product and above all else: look for a food that is “COMPLETE AND BALANCED FOR ALL LIFE STAGES.” That is allllll you need to read on a bag of pet food! Never approach a dog you don’t know, no matter how adorable they may look. Seek help if you suspect infection or possible exposure to rabies, or if the wound is severe. Should I use Lyssin and if so when? Hi Cathy, Main thing: signature, appropriate blanks filled out, boxes checked, etc. (SOURCE: Compendium Part 1(A.)(10.)) I don’t use lyssin any longer, but I do send a tautode home with my clients if they feel they have no choice but to vaccinate. My dog bit someone in my property, she has been vaccinated for rabies, but outdated. And then, speak confidently that more vaccines are not something you will be giving your already-vacc’d pup. International travel: every country you go to will have immutable rules that you must follow to get in. In many instances, the appearance of mild scarring will lessen over time. He then couriers it to hemopet (this is Jean Dodd’s clinic). Unfortunately the Rabies Titer-Response was ‘Less than 0.5 IU/mL’, which is considered unacceptable by the World Health Organization. The question on everyone’s lips will be, “Is she up to date on her rabies shots?”. Apparently Montreal has a huge stray/feral cat problem. But if … Does Lyssin help prevent damage caused by rabies vaccine? He doesn’t have rabies. Dr. Whitecoat strikes again. This is written under the “Vaccination” section under the sub heading of Serologic titers. Rabies is a potentially fatal condition, which is 100 percent preventable when immediate medical treatment is received. If you or your child has been bitten by an animal, you might be worried about getting rabies or having to get rabies shots. It sounds like a sad “perfect storm” that took his life. Surely you can see they are not going to help you or protect your from a disease that’s not there. If it cannot be determined whether or not the animal that bit someone was rabid, they just assume that it was and administer the vaccination. I give it before and after the shot, so far so good. Any information you have is GREATLY appreciated….Thank you . This will help flush out germs. Second, if you can put your foot down to resist the shots (not in the belly, not painful any longer, but vaccines are best avoided if you value your long term health), I’d refuse them. I went through the Contact page, and can resend it to your e-mail if you prefer. Because I was bit at a private residence,OHIP wants to be paid back and I’m the 1 that has to now tell my friend she has to call her insurance company. If they had, they might have said the dogs were 3-4 years “overdue” for another shot. ?”, “Oh God Oh God Oh God! 5. full articles with highlighted portions If a dog bite tears the skin, it can cause scarring to occur. 1. last rabies certificate (out of date) Sam saw me repeatedly as a pup for a chronic loose stool and a flaky appetite. His rabies is due in March of this year, so I am anxiously researching. Furthermore, in most places, the rabies vaccine for dogs is legally required. Also, for the love of your pet do NOT feed blue buffalo. To answer this, we need look to the National Association of State Public Health Veterinarians, NASPHV. Knowing that one vaccination lasts a lifetime, we’re never again vaccinating, and I would have argued with them about this fact. Specifically the wording that the vaccine is NOT contraindincated in most immunocomprimised animals. I also have an 8lb toy rat terrier, Sadie, who I adopted at age 2, she’s now 6. We were told this is the most severe reaction (all 12 vets have ever seen), she popped a cantaloupe sized tumor that grew by the day and completely lost the use of her leg. Mom’s immunity runs out at a certain point. Who was that again? No anti-rabies prophylaxis is needed. Dogs come in all shapes, sizes, colors, and temperaments. Do not get duped by their false advertising. I failed my dog because I didn’t push back hard enough that we could do a home quarantine and he didn’t legally need a vet “check”. Never mind that Dr. WhiteCoat gets this wrong regularly, and pushes rabies vaccines like he’s somehow been deputized by the state (which he clearly has NOT been), even the fauxlistic vets get this wrong. I also now have a non-vaccinated Scotty puppy who was with her mother until 12 weeks old. These include infections, rabies, nerve or muscle damage, and more. As you may have read, no difference between one year and three year rabies except the label, so you might as well get three years of peace before you have to think about this again. Wow, Belinda! Domestic animals, like dogs and cats, are responsible for the majority of animal bites. A deep bite can cause damage to nerves, muscles, and blood vessels under the skin. Regardless of rabies vaccination status, a healthy dog, cat, or ferret that potentially exposes a person through a bite should be confined and observed daily for 10 days from the time of the exposure.”. I’ve had the opposite experience in my life: my night for emergencies, I get home and intend to meditate for an hour, undisturbed. Hey Lorraine, My first response would be to call 911, both times that I saw a rabid animal, children were nearby. Could that be the ‘Rabies Tautode’ that you mentioned in a later post? Would you include the link to the AVMA page that you use please? To vaccinate and do possible harm and worry about that, or don’t vaccinate and worry about that. Even though your dog may be vaccinated, your vet will often be required by law to keep the dog in for observation for up to 7-10 days if rabies is suspected. Ironically, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency references the US compendium but leaves it at that. Take it with your dog to your vet and he will do the blood draw as per the instructions on the sheet. Post-exposure rabies prophylaxis (PEP) is compulsory if you are bitten by a dog, cat or other animal that is rabid or is suspected to be infected with rabies. The difference between “out of date” and “unvaccinated” for rabies is vast. He is very well adjusted emotionally now, and is very loving and affectionate. We take her into the house and clean and bandage the “wound.” I have had a hard time calling it a “bite” seeing as it is a one tooth puncture wound. Gently press a clean cloth over the wound to stop the flow of blood. My 4 year old Westie has been totally over-vaccinated, so this year will be different. He always had some behavioral issues which were documented by us, but that wasn’t good enough. All dogs bite, this has been my experience. I’ve been bitten several times by these dogs trying to get them off my dogs. “expired” . A dog with a history of rabies vaccination should not cause a round of prophylaxis for a bitten person. Thank you. Or it gets put to sleep. If a dog, cat, bat, or other mammal you might suspect has rabies has bitten you, get to the doctor. Therefore, the most likely scenario of your dog getting rabies is through contact with another domesticated or wild infected animal. It’s very important to wash the wound as soon as you’re bitten and to use topical antibiotics, such as povidone iodine, in and around broken skin. Suddenly, all the justification of why she bit this obnoxious kid fades. Let the professionals worry about over-vaccination. If your doctor prescribes antibiotics for you, you’ll probably take them for 1 to 2 weeks. Please can you advise me on what to do? Until a study is proven and verified it is worthless and simply not true. Nick was up to date!! Dogs, bats, skunks, coyotes, raccoons, and foxes are examples of animals that can carry rabies. Had the dog been up to date not according to a titer (which she did not have) but according to a vet we would have gone to the doctor gotten the antibiotics for the bite (topical and oral) and gotten back on with life. The cold realization slaps you wide awake to a much scarier scenario: animal control will be involved as well as this boy’s doctor. I’m not clear on the actual reason if he was up to date on shots? I offer it free. Both times the injury was caused by my own small breed dog who was up to date on vaccinations. Certain jurisdictions require evidence of vaccination and rabies virus antibodies for animal importation. It has thoughtful articles and Tasty Tips that only go out to our members. Of course, it’s also possible to be bitten by your own dog. I had Sadie’s Titers done as you advised. For this reason, treatment to prevent the rabies virus from infecting your body is recommended if the doctor thinks there's a chance you have been exposed to the virus. When did you come through the US border with only a titer? She will say in writing that the dog is adequately or more than adequately protected. Dogs with rabies are more likely to bite when unprovoked. Some will transfer that moving water fear or aggression to things that move or even even shine, like mirrors. Yes. But I’ve also heard through the grapevine that trans-Canadian/US travel happens with dogs regularly w/o necessarily having up to date rabies. 2. The question I had for you is about your suggestions for homeopathics for vaccine induced distemper. Which is good but I have no feeling in my little and ring fingers. My traditional vet said he would do a titer (rabies) and if the level was high enough, then maybe he would sign the waiver for my dog that has a medical condition. If possible, also ask to see some sort of ID. Look at the hell this is putting my family through! The closest thing we have to measuring this at present is the ongoing Rabies Challenge Fund, which seeks to prove at least 5–7 years duration of immunity from a rabies vaccination. That was the message from two different vets in town, and it was stated strongly and authoritatively. It’s been 2 years this month and it still shocks me that this is how he died. Over 6,000 known rabies cases involving wildlife occur in the U.S. each year; of these, a number involve dogs or cats being exposed. We then sat and ate pizza and talked for about an hour (the dog was in the crate the whole time). It’s as if rabies is affecting everyone’s clear thinking, much as it clouds that of the rabid animal, causes him to “lose his mind” and bite unthinkingly. I know I know, giving her the rabies vaccination is a great risk. After I’m done, and eaten dinner, I might get a call. I declined. Call your healthcare provider for guidance in reporting the attack and to determine whether additional treatment, such as antibiotics, a tetanus booster, or rabies vaccine is needed. It’s often published by the CDC (Centers for Disease Control, Atlanta, USA). He was vaccinated at the humane society in Sept 2016 where I adopted him from. At the time of a dog bite, it’ll be much harder if you’re unprepared. Adults should get a booster at least every 10 years, or possibly earlier if there’s a chance…. Oh, you’re most welcome, Sandra. My dog caught and killed 2 low flying small ones today , Reading the AVMA stance on rabies vaccine waivers makes me angry. Dr. Falconer, and who else? My male Catahoula got away from my 18 yo daughter who was walking him and he bit another dog who got very hurt and is at the vet right now. I know small dogs are at higher risk for reaction to vaccination. Left untreated, it can lead to death within a few days of infection. The part I highlighted when I put in my book is in the first paragraph: And finally, it’s important for everyone reading this to know that the dog being “out of date” on rabies vaccines has nothing to do with the determination of whether or not a bitten person gets recommended to get PEP (post exposure prophylaxis). What are possible complications from a dog bite? Your puppy most likely doesn't have it because it would have to have been bitten by a rabid animal first. That “won’t guarantee every officer’s response” is just what I’m suggesting everyone be ready for. Go to hemopet.com. Titers do not directly correlate with protection because other immunologic factors also play a role in preventing rabies, and the ability to measure and interpret those other factors is not well-developed. Here’s what I’d do to keep your chances high of not losing your best friend in a dog bite scenario: That sage advice, given daily by sergeant Phil Esterhaus of Hill St. Blues, is useful when you’re daring to question authority for the good health of your animal. I got bit 2 weeks ago by a friends dog and finally found out today,the vaccines are not up to date so yes I will now have to have painful rabies shots in my stomach over the next two weeks. a. AVMA update that waivers are sometimes necessary Hi Helen, I have a beagle mix, Barney, who on the way home from his 3rd rabies shot had a seizure in the car. At your vet? Seek immediate medical attention if you’ve been bitten by a dog and you aren’t sure of their vaccination history or know that they’re not up-to-date on their rabies vaccinations. I just feel sick because my friend broke her back and is in a wheelchair so I don’t want to cause them anymore grief but at the same time I now have to see an upper limb specialist. Adults should get a tetanus booster shot every 10 years. The only exception is when the booster is delayed, in which case public health officials have the option of increasing the observation period. Infections can spread quickly throughout the body. If the animal shows no signs of rabies after 10 days, the animal did not have rabies when it bit you and you do not need rabies shots. How terribly unfortunate for Nick and your family. There is a little bleeding left in the stools, everything has been healed. The actual test is RFFIT-Rabies Antibody Endpoint, and KSU’s fee is $65. I have to also say in my job I respond to calls of sick wild animals, and in my 18 years of this I have only seen distemper in wild animals, however I have heard that some states do have a problem with rabies. I went to the doctor (because pregnant and worried that i needed a tetanus shot which I got) and they had to file with animal control. So now the dog is on 10 day quarantine at Tammy’s house (which btw almost did NOT happen simply because I was so pissed off by her telling me that the dog was “up-to-date” when in fact her documentation showed an expired shot record that I felt like she might not tell the truth about the health of her dog over the next 10 days….denial is not only a river in Egypt I could have not signed off and her dog would have gone to animal control for 10 days at her cost and I can assure you that as aggressive as this dog is it would NOT be returning to Tammy. Don’t know which dog bit me. If you notice signs of infection, see your doctor right away. Do birds carry and spread rabies? If you have vaccinated, do you not believe immunity is there against what you vaccinated against? My dog was not up to date the other dog was. These germs can cause bacterial infections if the dog bite breaks the skin. If you were bitten by a cat, dog, or ferret that appeared healthy at the time you were bitten, it can be confined by its owner for 10 days and observed. Plus, if we travel to the U.S., I have been told (perhaps incorrectly) that a Rabies Vaccination is required. They were in the wrong, clearly, but this is what we have to deal with when bureaucrats are allowed to think they have authority over us. Her fee is $75. Around 1 in 5 dog bites require medical treatment. We hope you'll join us inside. Your vet draws the blood, sends to Kansas State lab, they run the test and send results. It could be a problem if you were bitten or the dog was bitten…..and either of you needed treatment. 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